Even her own mother admitted she shopped around until she got the correct diagnosis. R111, no-fault; yes, regarding reasons for separation and division of assets. He hasnt touched me all week, kissed me, talked to me except for when Im trying to figure out what is wrong, Shanann explained in another text. Maybe if he'd convinced a judge that Shan'ann was a dishonest grifter he would have succeeded. what happens to all their debt now? People with less than 2 brain cells should not be allowed to comment on public posts. He refused to hug me after he said he will try to work it out! But the whole alienating and making people choose. They got married around 2002/2003 and divorced around 2007/2008. Its my OPINION that people who mess around with their name are waving a red flag. Only they know, but I bet that is the case. Think before you speak. Shanann Watts, 34, and her two children Bella, 3, and. Chris kept going on and on about how attracted he was to her, even though the detectives had moved on and started questioning him about Shannan. What evidence is there that Shanann was making up her diagnosis of Lupus, whether or not she was "a hypochondriac and OCD"? He definitely deserves life in prison - what he did was disgusting. Had Chris had 30k of his own liquid funds for the divorce and post-divorce actions, he couldve gotten primary physical custody of his kids, since Shannan wouldve no doubt engaged in parental alienation, factitious disorder by proxy, and financial disaster. And even though I cant stand her, I kind of like how demanding and grifty she was. Why does everyone keep saying, 'But back to Shannan?' Its the underlying current of this entire tragedy. Chris watts should never get out of prison. It doesnt appear that there was any history of beating or physical or sexual abuse with them & Chris (that we know of), so what the fuck happened? Munchausen's, and Munchausen's By Proxy! R199, I saw that. Shanann's husband, Chris Watts, 33, can be heard singing in the background." . He doesnt say but of course, we are only getting Leonards side of the story and we cant hear Shananns. I followed the Hart murders, too. R39 / r40, can you imagine Shanann hiking? Over a similar if slightly shorter span of time, Chris Watts moved 7 times, averaging about a move per year. According to Shananns mother, the surgery on her neck cost them $100. I remember there was some anti-Lularore/MLM site that had stories of men divorcing their wives due to MLM debt. I truly hope a movie is made of her in an honest light. lts only one way emotions and feelings. If you can't find the email you can resend it here. She didnt realize how controlling she became, according to his accusations. I listened to the RedHanded podcast posted upthread. Saw a new video today about Shan'annigan's 4,000 sf starter home in NC that she fled from, leaving most everything in there behind. This sub is for factual information, mourning, and speculative discussion only - no harassment of the victims or family members. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. Ugh time to FF the troll who is obsessed with this sexy murderer. Okay. - they owed. The more I look into that marriage, the worse I feel. Of course we can say nice things about her, too. R222 everybody was exaggerating the crap out of their income and assets when applying for loans back then and getting away with it. Her husband should have left her & divorced her, or never married her in the first place. It would be the only thing to do, R213. That can occur when a nerd suddenly becomes hot or he's just a crazy. An accomplice would have driven her car out to the site, they would have detonated the explosion and voila. Chris is a total hottie, Shanan was a a lucky gal. A bad attack meant a trip to the emergency room. I just dont get that at all. Its a whole subculture, heavy on thuggish bravado and bitches n hoes, etc. Not for one second did I think that the big confession Watts gave cops would be so brutal and nasty. ! she texted, adding, He said we are not compatible anymore! ^ Um, yes she was. She was trying to be cool and ethnic with the new spelling and pronounciation of her name. That really upsets me. Daughter of Private and Private That was a detailed and well written article, R227; better than most others I have read about his new confession. Her husband clearly wasn't as smart as this guy. Shanann's ex husband Leonard King say's "it was virtually impossible to engage with her" Murder Mysteries 2.8K subscribers Subscribe 7.9K views 4 years ago Shanann's ex husband found. Shanann was trying to make sense of it all. The only other option would have been for Chris to be full-time parent. \ 25 FEB-3 MARCH 2023 More adventures in \ } i " Back for the final series the Star Wars galaxy SRY. Fast forward to her fertility treatments. She got along well with people. Before meeting Chris, she was married to a man named Leonard King, and they got divorced in 2009. Was she banging him, too? I agree CBH. I wish I could describe betterthey remind me of some kids I know whose parents are lazy vegans whose idea of dinner for a two-year-old is a baby bowl of lentils with white vinegar sprinkled over and pretty much that all the time. Maybe I will become Jesus. Text messages obtained in a Freedom of Information Act request by the Daily Mail show Shanann Watts was trying to save her marriage in the weeks before her husband, Chris Watts, murdered her and her two daughters. Walk away, wimp. Grahm Coder says repeatedly, Help us bring them out of the cold." Keith Griffith For Dailymail.com, Husband appears shackled in court after the bodies of his missing pregnant wife and their two daughters whom he confessed to killing are found at the Colorado oil field where he worked, Was husband who killed his pregnant wife and kids bitter over her sudden success? I sure hope he does. She stayed at home all day gaming while her wife worked full time at Kohls. click ACCEPT. I bet Shanann whacked out a lot. Someone who was asking for a murderous rage. I'll be back. Im not saying she killed anyone, but I think she goaded him. I think he was planning to make it look like an accident, that Shanann Wayts came out looking for him, to confront him about his affair maybe. She would have received spousal support but there is a time limit on that. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN took out life insurance policies when they were married around 2004/2005 through USAA. That is a comment that should never have been said; parenthood is exhausting and social media never forgives human missteps. This was all a conspiracy to defraud Anadarko out of hundreds of millions of dollars in a wrongful death suit. The Netflix shows details the deteriorating relationship between Chris and Shanann, who began suspecting her husband was having an affair and felt he was suddenly pulling away from her. Odd that when her marriage to King ran into trouble her behavior exactly mirrored that of Chris in the months before the murders: Not waning to engage in conversation, shutting down, withdrawing, physically distancing herself within the home, etc. Where does the need to reinforce someones mistake come from? Press J to jump to the feed. Why does everyone on this thread seem so willing to badmouth a victim none of you have met? 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He admitted to that. Would you know my name if I saw you in Heaven? R144, Sure she fled. Chris Watts strangled and smothered his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, to death, before strangling their daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, with a blanket in 2018. Four months after Shanann Watts posted that photo, her husband sits in a jail in Colorado, suspected of killing her, along with their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. I doubt she sold that much Thrive! He assumed that SHANANN kept her policy and would have changed the beneficiary. DEFINITELY 1 and 3, probably 2. John Forbes officiating. Why? He left one of their bed sheets in the field with the bodies. R28, I think they bought the house before the bankruptcy. I do agree that Kessinger had more involvement than she pretended. Oh how Shanann was so excited to be able to have another child because of her battle with Lupus. Does anyone think Shan'ann killed her ugly kids, like Chrissy claimed? Lucky for these scammers theres HIPAA. As reported by People, "Over the summer, Shanann [Watts . She wanted people to ask her, "How should I pronounce your name?" But Chris was already involved in an affair: He had become intimate with an unwitting co-worker who believed he was getting a divorce from his wife. In order to post it I had to resize it on a website to get a URL, because the google image links kept being rejected. I also think she used her physical hardships once again to play on his sympathies, sort of like a book of struggles, but he had already turned a deaf ear. He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. The person who deserves the credit for masterminding this sick scheme is Nichol Kessinger. She alienated Chris from his friends. Like an entire store's worth. I can't believe this thread got GRAY-LINED! SHANANN would stay gone, but he was never concerned that something happened to her. 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